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 enlarge | Author: William R. Koehler
Creator: R. T. Yankie
Publisher: Howell Book House
Category: Book
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Rating:  120 reviews
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Pages: 208
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Dimensions (in): 9.3 x 6.3 x 0.9
ISBN: 0876056575
Dewey Decimal Number: 636.7088
EAN: 9780876056578
ASIN: 0876056575
Publication Date: 1982
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 "abusive" method saves dog's life - several times. December 27, 2004
ilex q. (lust comes into phaze)
29 out of 37 found this review helpful
first off, if you take anything out of context you can twist it around to voice your opinion. the so-called "abusive" tactics previously pointed out were for extreme situations of aggressive and dangerous dogs. do you really think a snapping and biting animal is going to be adequately trained by cooing and puppycookies? get a grip.
if you want to know what this method DOES achieve, try a very neurotic and hyperactive irish setter disoriented and half-doped on tranquilizers after being stationed on a plane in a cage next to a baby panther on an overseas flight - said irish setter gets loose on the flightlines of LAX, no one can catch her because she's scared witless by airplanes and people chasing her. the only thing that worked? her Koehler obedience training and commands that reminded her and brought her to safety.
and, as a previous reviewer said, READ the BOOK. TWICE. Koehler was already armed with the credentials, logical explanations, and educational tools to discredit those who want to cry abuse.
 Never got it October 17, 2004
Annie Kuehler
2 out of 26 found this review helpful
I ordered this book and never recieved it although my CC was charged for it so if any one can tell me what it says I would appreciate it.
Get some sense folks! September 24, 2004
Ann Scott (Michigan US)
20 out of 26 found this review helpful
I have been training and showing for over 40 years having started in the 60's. I'm all of 95lbs and have trained everything from toy breeds to Great Danes, well-bred puppies to older dogs from unknown backgrounds. A 50 lb dog can knock me down and anything bigger can drag me around. I still have all my Koehler books from when they were originally published.
Koehler's instructions for the "normal" situation worked then and work now. It is, and always has been a method of showing the dog what you want - on the retrieve work it takes close to 6 weeks before you throw the dumbbell more than 5 feet! It is a system of reward (praise - verbal and physical) and correction (collar or hands.) I always have my voice and hands - but this clicker/ treat stuff, well, if you don't have it that minute.... I rely on a service dog these days and would feel like a walking grocery store (treats) or a demented cricket (clickers) out in public.
The material in the book that sets all these uncomprehending people screaming is for the last ditch situation. I have had to choke a dog out with the collar. I had been talked into babysitting in my home a completely (unbeknowst to me)untrained, unruly, spoiled rotten, aggressive 115lb Siberian Husky. Without provocation, he attacked someone who came to the house (and I mean as in going to the air with mouth open and snarling.) When I grabbed the collar, stopped him in mid-air and yelled "no", he turned on me. 115 against 95 - not good odds - and he had sharper teeth. I hauled up on the chain slip collar and held his front end off the ground till he seemed to give - I couldn't have stopped him with all 4 feet on the ground. It took a HALF HOUR of lunge at me - choke him - release him - lunge at me until he finally conceeded enough that I could back away. I called the boarding kennel at a vet clinic which I used (and that I had once recommended to his owners) only to be informed that the dog had stayed with them and the owners had been told never to bring him back since he had bit or tried to bite everyone on the staff. (They agreed as a favor to me and for the sake of my Golden Retreiver to take him but stipulated that he would be kept muzzled with a muzzle that would let him eat and drink but not bite.) IF I HADN"T READ ABOUT THE TECHNIQUE IN KOEHLER"S BOOK YEARS BEFORE - I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN CONTROL - AND THE CHOICE WAS MY PHYSICAL SAFETY OR DISCOMFORT, PROBABLY EXTREME DISCOMFORT BUT STILL ONLY TEMPORARY, TO THE DOG.
THAT IS THE SITUATION THAT KOEHLER'S LAST DITCH METHODS ARE TO BE USED IN. Or the dog that continues to destroy a few thousand $$$ of landscaping or who barks so much that a court is ready to order him destroyed or who continuely destroys the furniture or clothes. Those sections are the "When nothing else works" and if any trainer tries to tell you taht clickers and treats and psychoanaylsis of the dog will solve all problems, well, I have this bridge in Brooklyn.
I have worked with dogs so oblivious that they could care less about doing anything except what they want to do and nothing, not treats, clicks or anything else is going to sway them short of an abrupt physical correction (or as much as 95 lbs can give.) I have worked with dogs who were so soft, retiring and easygoing that a sharp word was sufficient. You pick and choose. His books are not cookbooks - "follow ever step or the cake will fail." They are a myriad of techniques to be used in various situations.
If all else has failed to work, what is better - the mild shock of a 6 volt wire or dead? No one with any sense is going to the use the ultimate, nastiest correction for either a small infraction of behavior or as the first step. (Interesting that none of these people seem to have any problem with electric fences or electric collars - same concept, same electric. What do they think the collars and fences are charged with - apple juice?) As to correcint with the collar, yes- some poeple abuse it and harm the dog but then there are people that giving them anything is like giving a monkey a set of razor blades.
Anyone who buys this book should also get the books on training for Open obedience and retrieveing and the book on Utility Obedience work. It all fits.
And oh yes, my 7 month old, 70 lb puppy is quite happily working at the Intermediate level of show obedience competition, has to been ging to the grocery store since he was 5 months old as a sevice dog in training and wiggles with pleasure when he knows it is time to practice or work. He has never needed more than the fulsome verbal and physical praise with the mild collar corrections as delineated by Koehler. I know other owners of the same breed who haven't gotten to this level of performance in 7 YEARS - forget 3 months.
If you want to always have to have treats in your pocket so your dog will obey or carry the clicker thing, and take at lest 10 times as long to get the same results - fine, buy something else.
If you have an average dog or puppy, buy the book and follow Koehler for the normal training. If you have a "if-this-behavior-doesn't-end-the-dog-will-have-to-be-destroyed" sistuation, buy and read the book, talk to your vet, find an animal behvioral specialist (and I don't mean the dog trainer down the street - ask your vet) and develop a plan for trying to correct the problem through gradualy escalating methods of correction - and remember, Koehler put those extreme measures in theere as the last choice.
The REAL World September 4, 2004
Lori Anne (Raleigh, NC)
11 out of 17 found this review helpful
I have had and owned dogs all my life and have read a ton of dog training books from the time I turned 12, I am now 42. I have lived with all of my dogs until their deaths (between 12-16 years old). I have an original copy of "The Kohler Method of Dog Training" and have used it for 15 years to EDUCATE my retrievers, pointers and my closest companion Sabene, a standard poodle. I have checked out books by new "dog trainers" to see if in all these years anybody has improved on the techniques. They haven't.
I hear the cries of those that say they love their dog and these methods are cruel. Those cries are drowned out by the sounds of cries of dogs locked in kennels and crates because they are "unruly" and "nothing I do works." The worst is the dogs surrendered to shelters because they don't fit in with that family picture the owner had in their dreams.
The sad truth about most dog owners is their dogs rule. It is proved time and again when I take Sabene to the vet, beach or flea market. We have experienced numerous problems with unEDUCATED dogs that were on leashes. The worst was with a german shepard that was dragging his owner behind him on the leash at the flea market. The dog made a b-line for Sabene and wasn't slowing down. Using Kohler's method for left turn corrections I put Sabene on stay and stepped in front of her hitting the german shepard in the nose with my leg and redirecting his path away from my well behaved dog. His owner was mad and I simply stated that if her dog had been her car she would be getting the ticket and insurance increase and that she was just as responsible for the control of her dog.
Kohler's book is easy for the first time trainer and it is EFFECTIVE. The only thing I've added to my training routine is when I have a puppy I start teaching the "sit", "down", "out" and "come" as soon as they come to live with us. I don't use the "stay" command until I start the Kohler training.
Don't CHEAT your dog out of a proper EDUCATION by pleading with him/her to do as you want. Don't BRIBE him/her with treats. You may not have one when you need it the most. EDUCATE them with the Kohler method and you will forever have a fun, faithful and well behaved companion.
The end does not justify the means... June 5, 2004
15 out of 33 found this review helpful
Just because it WORKS doesn't mean it's RIGHT. These methods are abusive and inhumane. Save your money and buy anything by Jean Donaldson, Patricia McConnell, Ian Dunbar, Pat Miller, Pamela Reid, or Karen Pryor. Any method is only as good as the trainer using it, and if you have poor timing or inconsistent communication (as most of my dog class participants & all novice trainers do at first) the only damage you do to the dog with motivational, reward-based training, is that it takes longer to train. On the other hand, I am faced with at least one case a month of a fearful dog who was trained with techniques similar to Koehler's that is now dangerously aggressive. Run far, far away from this book. As fast as you can. Please. For the sake of your dog...
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